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Post by SaMeeR on Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:15 pm

one word - hype affraid

Which teams? which players did he face?

He played in the era where a 2.6 bat was classed as WELL HEAVY.
If thats the case imagine the bowlers!?! no proper training, coaching, strength, no techniques..

Don in 2008, would get no where..

what do u lovely members think ? Question


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Post by Leo on Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:18 pm

Tendulkar wont get anywhere in 2040 will he... the game will have changed.
Bradman was the best player of his era no doubt!

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Post by SaMeeR on Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:21 pm

2040 ??? Leo talk about seeing the future!

of his ERA yeh i agree...but not the best EVER?

Bradman was ahead of everyone else at the time.. but since then theres more to batting then just hitting the ball with a wicket stump

I reckon Tendulkar in 1920's would have been AS successful or even more than DB.
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Post by keeper13 on Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:39 pm

no way look at who he faced Harold larwood and co. Bouncers and such at his body and to still average over 50
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Post by SaMeeR on Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:42 pm

but Sachin has faced, LEE, McGrath, Tait (i think for one over!) and all these other speedo's.

I wonder what Larwoods bowling speed was.. any reference to it? i doubt it cus of no speed guns.

But yeh Larwood was one sicko inventor of fast bowling maybe?

but who else? Usually u aint a GREATEST EVER if u face one bowler over and over again.



ps. Keeper, dont u want to join in the cricket sim competition? u can be Duncan Fletcher and pick ur own squad.. should be a good competition once it gets started. Cool
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Post by keeper13 on Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:53 pm

i was one of the first to join.

But in the bodyline series there was quite possibly 6 bouncers an over now it's what one above shoulder also you could have as many men behind square as you waqnt.
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Post by Richie on Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:08 pm

You can't compare Bradman, or anything from years past, and expect it to compete at the same level. Times change, technology moves on, the game has changed so you can't really expect him to compete now.
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Post by sambo on Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:16 pm

yeah but i think he is the best. the bowlers back then were very good. they can be compared to now i concede but anybody who can bowl 6 bouncers at pace wherever they wanted all day must be good. and the way he batted on those sticky dogs was immpeccable. the only way they can be compared is stats. so when some one average over 99.94 after 80 inningsi will rate as the best.

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Post by Leo on Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:31 am

Og course Tendulkar would have been better than Bradman! People have evolved and are getting much fitter and using sophisticated training methods.
I rekon...if someone like gerraint jones went back in time he would be better than Bradman!

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Post by SaMeeR on Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:44 am

Geraint Jones confused ? Leo ur taking the piss man! Razz this is a serious conversation here!!!

Bowling six bouncers an over, cant be THAT hard.. all u do is pitch it short! and put fielders all around the bat.
With Sticky pitches, the ball would be slower off the track wouldnt it?


Anyways, any ideas or links to the SPEED of the bowlers in those days?
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Post by SaMeeR on Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:45 am

What type of bat did Sir Don Bradman use? asked Quinten Scarbourah from Australia


For most of his career Don Bradman used bats made by the Yorkshire firm William Sykes, who started manufacturing the "Don Bradman Autograph" bat in 1930. The Sykes company was taken over by Slazenger during the Second World War, and the new owners continued making the Bradman Autograph model until around 1950. By coincidence the first new bat Bradman ever owned - a present from his parents after he made a triple-century in a club game - was also a Sykes, bought at the Mick Simmons shop in Sydney where he was later to work.
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Post by Nozza on Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:21 am

My god do any of you know what you are saying?

This is what both have to contend with.

Bradman:

1) Pitches uncovered cracked and very poorly Kept
2) Fields not the best bumpy and slow not to mention bigger boundaries
3) Bowlers allowed to bowl as many bounces as you want on decks with variable bounce
4) What protective equiptment?
5) Bats are poor at best. No weight and no ping
6) No third Ump
7) Had to verse the best teams and never Bangledesh Zimbabwe or Holland!!
Bradman an average of 99.94 in the worst conditions imaginable.


Tendulker:

1) Pitches Manicured as flat as a tack and easy for batting
2) Brilliant and quick and small
3) Bowlers allowed 1 an over and must bowl full on flat decks
4) Protective equipment so padded and you wont get hurt
5) Bats made like beasts. See leading edges go for 6
6) Third umps to look at everything
7) Gets to belt "2nd Class attacks" of the minows around
An average of max 55 on the most batsman fieldly pitches in history

How the hell can you say that Bradman is not the best?

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Post by keeper13 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:16 am

Bradman s most definetely the best batsmen ever.
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Post by SaMeeR on Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:43 pm

what speeds did Bradman face?
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Post by Nozza on Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:04 pm

Harwood was about 90+ MPH with bradman with no protective gear

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Post by MD14 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:09 pm

Nozza wrote:Harwood was about 90+ MPH with bradman with no protective gear
They did wear protection Nozz, although it was more than likely ineffective. And it's Larwood

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Post by Nozza on Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:18 pm

Oh sorry typo. How the hell did i press h instead of l?

Yes that is why i said no protective gear becasue it was pretty useless!

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Post by evo on Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:21 pm

Impossible to say who is/was better, both from different eras and both were affected by different bowlers, conditions etc

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Post by sambo on Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:03 pm

wasnt much potective stuff. the pads had holes. i would be crapping myself
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