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Post by marcussjd9 on Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:06 am

You often hear commentators speak of batsmen bing "done in the flight"
But how does everyone feel wehn a spinner bowls a flighted delivery at them?
Do you all look to smack it?
And from a bowlers point of view...With the extra flight how do you get it to drop?...(you also hear a lot mentioned about th bally dipping under the bat etc..)?

Just Curious Smile
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Post by bellie on Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:21 am

if the spiner flights it to me i will allways look to hit it away. but if they pitch it short and they flight it i will not have a go at it, because it will spin most of the time and knowing me i will come down the wicket and get stuped.
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Post by Richie on Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:55 am

I think when you are facing a good spinner, and you are getting tied down, you have to try and make use of flighted ball because it gives you a chance to get down the wicket.
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Post by bellie on Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:54 am

yeah but if there just a poor spinner who does not spin the ball then theres not that much risk in coming down the wicket
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Post by keeper13 on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:02 pm

if it's flighted i either get back and fill it or push forward and try to get runs.
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Post by bellie on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:31 pm

most spinners at younger aged cricker(13 to around 15) dont really now how to do flight and droping it after the flight
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Post by keeper13 on Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:04 pm

don't need to know how some still manage to do.
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Post by bellie on Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:45 pm

sorry then i wont post my thoughts then
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Post by marcussjd9 on Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:53 pm

i think keeper meant (correct me if i'm wong)
At that age bowlers don't need to know how to flight the ball, yet some still manage to get the flight and dip!
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Post by keeper13 on Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:07 pm

that's exactly what i meant.


What did you think i meant Belliee
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Post by bellie on Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:03 pm

i thought you ment: i dont need to no some thing i allreally no or something like that.
dont worry keeper i get u now
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Post by keeper13 on Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:18 am

it's allright mate.
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Post by bellie on Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:19 am

ok cheers mate any way back on topic...
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Post by SaMeeR on Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:40 am

its about the bowlers confidence too.. fighted ball will be just short of a fullish toss making the batter drive at it

so unless its a suprise or rare delivery, batsmen will be looking to hit a boundary off it, maybe even move forward so its a fulltoss
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Post by bellie on Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:35 am

yer it has to be used not that often
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Post by marcussjd9 on Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:38 am

Ok... Thats the batsmens perspective...
But how do you actually bowl the delivery?
What does the bowler have to do differently from a standard spinning delivery to generate the dip?
Obviously the flight is just tossing it up a bit... But at a standard pace etc the batsmen would have hours to get into position!
How as a bowler do you manage to get it to dip?!?!
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Post by bellie on Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:43 am

for my off spin i have not got my dip spot on at the moment but i really want to learn how to. any one got this dip sorted?
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Post by SaMeeR on Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:25 am

i use my fingers to generate forward rotation on the ball so eventually it will dip and when bounces speeds up.

You have to release it so the ball goes above the eyelevel of the batsmen to get best effect.


Or you can do wot Afridi does and throw in a 70mph full toss and get the batsmen to play all round it or rush his shot
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Post by sambo on Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:43 am

there about 8 people i know that can flight a ball in my under 13 experiences. i reckon theres a few factors in getting the dip. but what ive found if your goign for a mix of drift and dip. try and get the balls seam on the 45 degreee angle. if you want absolute drift get as much angle on it as possible and the least amount possible for maximum bounce. warnie also says the follow thru is crucial to because just stopping after you ball gets no drift, dip etc.
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Post by Richie on Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:27 pm

As Sameer said, I think it has got something to do with top spin, because if any of you play tennis, if you put top spin on the ball it dips.
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Post by SaMeeR on Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:08 am

tennis - a great game to learn swing
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