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Post by superjaffa Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:23 pm

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We all agree that Ponting is a great great batsman perhaps only second to Bradman when he finishes up. But are there any fans of his Captaincy on here ?

Is he really a great captain or just fortunate to be captaining a great side ? Would any other guy do just as well captaining the same Aussie side

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Post by Josh Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:18 am

I think he's a really good captain too. During the 2005 Ashes series Michael Vaughan was the better captain, by a long way. Since then Ponting has really got his act together and his captaincy has improved a lot. He is Australia's 2nd most successful captain after Alan Border.
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Post by Mannie Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:27 am

not a fan of his captaincy he has a great team that rallies around him and aids him


Fleming is the ultimate captain imo
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Post by Josh Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:50 am

Yes true Mannie, having a team like Australia does help a lot with winning. Fleming was a good captain I agree.
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Post by Leo Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:58 am

Ponting just has a very good team around him with lots of expierience so they captain themselves basically!
Graeme Smith of South Africa is the same...
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Post by Josh Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:56 am

Leo wrote:Ponting just has a very good team around him with lots of expierience so they captain themselves basically!
Graeme Smith of South Africa is the same...

yes that's a good point. I bet Ponting doesn't actually have to much with the team he's got. As Leo says, the basically captain themselves.
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Post by sambo Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:09 am

Josh wrote:
Leo wrote:Ponting just has a very good team around him with lots of expierience so they captain themselves basically!
Graeme Smith of South Africa is the same...

yes that's a good point. I bet Ponting doesn't actually have to much with the team he's got. As Leo says, the basically captain themselves.

i dunno. I have his book from 2007 and i think he does a fair bit more than u guys give him credit for. (although i may be a biased aussie) lol! .

I think the better players have helped but nothing massive. Although i do respect stephen fleming tremendously because of his captaincy and what hes done for new zealand cricket.
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Post by SaMeeR Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:38 am

having a good team is 90% of the job done for the captain.

So i think Ponting has had it too easy flower
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Post by Richie Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:51 am

The thing with having big players is their ego's and trying to all keep them happy aswell, which I feel he has done well!
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Post by SaMeeR Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:01 pm

but that would also be down to the Coach, management, back room staff etc etc
I dont think this team has BIGG ego players like in the past!!!

I mean I think Alan Border had more of a problem with that more than Ponting and his playground buddies.
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Post by keeper13 Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:02 pm

Think ponting has allways had it a bit easy if things went wrong in the past he could asllways through the ball to Warne or Mcragh now he can do the same with Lee. A good point ids he hasn't let it effect his batting.
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Post by SaMeeR Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:23 am

thats why they say a batsmen makes a good captain, since he can lead the way through his batting

also i think Ponting hasnt been under much pressure when he bats, since the Team is hardly up against the wall from its opposition.

Pressure being a main factor in how your innings goes.
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Post by Leo Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:24 am

Good point... What international teams have a captain who is a bowler?
New Zealand only team i can think of!
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Post by SaMeeR Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:29 am

In the past there has been loads but at present I cannot think of any except Vetori and Kumble
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Post by marcussjd9 Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:00 am

Zimbabwe have a bowler as captain dont they?
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Post by bellie Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:10 am

flintoff was one
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Post by marcussjd9 Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:11 am

What about wicket keepers a captains?
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Post by bellie Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:18 am

gilly was vice McCullum did some onedays against england
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Post by marcussjd9 Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:20 am

They were the 2 that seemed most likely to me but i just remebered....Dhoni!
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Post by bellie Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:57 am

yer how stupid am i to forget him
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Post by Richie Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:08 pm

Very Razz
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Post by bellie Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:24 pm

cheers
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Post by Richie Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:42 pm

No probs mate Razz
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Post by bellie Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:58 pm

dw about it. ill get you back one day on this form dont you worry
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Post by Richie Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:06 pm

Haha Mate Razz
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